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RedMafia wrote:

Why would you pick clinkz as a counter to bs? Bs is a counter to clinkz because of the blood thrst crap that lets him see you.

Because I already know BS's strengths and weaknesses, and the simple ability to be invisble and ABOVE 40% HP makes you undetectable to BS. Clinkz has the freaking sick combo of Death Pact and Wind Walk, making him impossible to track if you know what you're doing. Effectively, you can stalk a hero that was built to be a hit and run ONLY killer.

RedMafia wrote:

Anyway, if you are looking for better games go play in 'clan dxd' on USwest its an inhouse league. So basically its a teamgame, unlike pubs, and there are rarely any leavers because they get banned. However if you are not up to their standards excpect to be flamed and maybe banned.

No thanks to that. My definition of "better games" excludes those assholes. I ban flamers just as much as I ban leavers for the same reason: they ruin the quality of the game. Noobs aren't NEARLY as bad as those 2, because, with the right attitude, noobs are bearable. I've already experienced those douchebags, and I've no interest in them. I've played with PLENTY of league gamers, and ALMOST (aww, if only my clan didn't disband a few weeks before our CAL! ><) had the opportunity to go head to head with the clan I loved to play with / watch play the most! They loved to poke fun at each other and those they played, but it was ALWAYS with respect. That makes all the difference.

"OMG stop autoing fucking nub!"
"stfu. LOL what's your CS?"

When I read this crap while trying to play through my 1-3 second delay, it's wholly unwarranted, and I've grown tired of trying to explain it away. They're full of themselves, I don't need to point it out to them, and even if I weren't in the midst of a heated game and did have ample opportunity to be as verbose about the details as possible, it would do no good. People who are certain of an opinion cannot be convinced otherwise. It's a bitch to deny when I'm spiking every 2 minutes and my delay changed from 1 to 2 seconds. Sometimes I miss a last hit, and it's come so far that I just don't bother in most of my games, even IHs. When morons like these get on my case about it, it pisses me off. Worse yet, when they don't know what kind of connection I have, think it's all skill and that I have none, and they have worlds more than I do, yet they can't juke for shit, playing with them is a waste of my time.

This is the feeling I got from those guys. Not just feeling, those are pretty much direct quotes from some of them. Ironically, I got similar crap in a game earlier today because of being on a dying streak on Clinkz. The game was 4v4, which I didn't consent to, but host started before I could object. There was a leaver, so the balance was thrown off almost immediately, and I got ganked. After that, it was almost impossible to keep up. By the end of the game, my team's Ezalor was bitching the world away at me for my items, my score, and calling me a huge noob. Meanwhile the enemy BS asked me and me alone if I wanted to join his clan. Afterwards he and I had a fun chat about the game, and we agreed the early game was fun (at least for me) and my harassment was top notch. The guy didn't need to look too far to see skill, something the Ezalor I had couldn't see past. We ended up playing a few more games after that, all of which we won.

All in all, I'm very happy to have made an effort to avoid elitist idiots who follow rules without even remember what they stand for.

EDIT: Now, I USED to go to a LAN center on certain occassions for planned league matches, but this was back when I was part of a CAL clan, I leagued and IHed rather often, and I actually cared about the game. I no longer do, so while I prize IH/league play for being better, I don't go out of my way for it. If I land an IH, I just try to play it despite my horrible connection at home.

Last edited by SnapSlav (2007-09-02 16:22:27)

Yeah, i hate douche bags in pugs too...

Last night, i was prophet and the other team had razor.  Anyways, i was eating for the first 10 minutes of the game and i was 2-1 or something T_T.  When i was done, i said i was done eating and was going to start playing at 75% because i dont always play 100%.  A few of them laughed at me, especially the razor.  Anyways, i fucked up with my hotkeys and casted my ulti a bit late and proceeded to windwalk and follow razor, he runs fast and i right clicked him accidentally so i came out of invis and i didn't even know it and he killed me T_T.

So he laughs and calls me noob.  I just brush it off, and i decided to stalk him for most of the game cause he was being a douche bag.  Killed him 5 more times in about 15 minutes and he left ^_^.

Anyways, i do plan on trying that League IH.  What type of games do they usually play?

lols, first post right into the dota thread ^^.  The first dota thread (the one i made that died) people would post their account names and realms, but only 3-4 people did it.

no not yet,   I might try it out right now.

Ok this has been bothering me a lil. Phantom Assasin. MKB or Buriza? I believe monkey is better because she needs dps and buriza isn't worth all the gold you pay for it because mortred already has her ult passive crit. And as said in the official DotA forums the crit isn't additive nor does it stack. The only thing that stacks is the chance of the critical. But my friends insist that buriza is the best on her and after trying both I believe they're both very good. So im not sure even tho I like MKB more myself.
What do you think?

So that was in case I got any of those 2, but which do you think that are the best items for her in general?

I like getting the 2 bracers as well, however i get a Ring of Health for regen, and i complete a pers followed by battlefury. Then I usually get the helm, butterfly etc.

By saying that you will end up with a 12% chance coup and a 20% chance crit you are also saying that buriza overrides coup. Why is that? I would like to see some concrete proof of this (knowledge is power). If coup overrides buriza, then coup would have 15% and buriza would have a 17%: why isnt it this way? Also, my brother has tried some experiments and he observed that it "looks like" both crits can go off (both dealing damage). Seriously though, where did you get your information? I definitely would like to know which is the case.

As for crit/stun combinations, I have never heard of them using the same "scale" (for lack of better word coming to mind). They are separate affects, and therefore should have separate chances of going off. I would like proof that they share a chances to go off. I am almost positive they don't. (I can pretty much swear i have seen a crit that stunned.)

hmmm... reread your post... i think i could have misinterpreted some things...
either way, set me on the right track.

Last edited by Panarchus (2007-09-05 12:47:29)

This is the same reason why you dont get bfly on spectre, it destroys her disperse T_T.

Why do players constantly refer to a female character as "he"? O.o I'll never understand it...

Well, Radiance cases the same problems as BFly does to her Dispersal, but not nearly as much. I think it lowers it to slightly above 12%, so no big whoop.

Curiously, I was looking up an old guide that led me to practice, and in so doing, master Phantom Lancer, and I noticed that the guide had undergone some updates since I last checked it out; namely, it was updated to roughly 6.40 (new items from 6.38 and such were included). But what struck me as odd was the detail of "Evasion DOES NOT stack!!!" He went into detail about diminishing returns, but he said that Evasion had no diminishing returns, and simply just didn't stack whatsoever. Essentially that whatever item/skill had the most Evasion on a Hero would be the set evasion they had. I find this rather bogus, as simple physical experience points to extreme difficulty in landing attacking when a Hero possesses more than 1 BFly. I know that it's really all luck of the roll on the die, but consistently? It just points to the fact that Evasion DOES stack but with Diminishing Returns!

Just sorta phased that one of my favorite guides collected such a horrific piece of data. >_<

RedMafia wrote:

Radience doesnt mess up his disperse, i dont know what your source for that is but its wrong.

It messes up Dispersal because of the evasion (8%). However, the change is so small that it's of no bother. Dispersal still has full 16% chance to disperse a spell, and, 14.7% chance to disperse a physical attack. Sure, 8% of the time you don't return the damage taken from a blow, but you still evade it.

I use guide for heroes I'm no good with. If I can't get a feel for a hero, I check out a guide for it. I've read several on Mercurial, Ogre, Geo, and a few others that I suck with, and I still suck with them, so I'm "waiting" for the magical guide that shows me the light. All in all, it's playstyle. If a hero falls into your playstyle, you'll pick it up, whether you read a guide or not. Guides just help make the learning experience a little faster.

Speaking of things not to do, I got desparate a few nights ago, and ended up playing an Easy Mode game.... Big mistake. That's the last time I do that again...

puck is too easy to use.  I played puck twice, and did pretty good the first time and the second time won a 3v4 (was a 5v5) and we had 2 int heros (me and qop) and the game was about 1 hr 30 min long.

Yeah, first Put on Refraction, then Meld, and then attack............you'll do Bonus damage, reduce his armor (meaning do more damage) and you'll be Invulnerable for some hits............

  At lvl 6 you'll have lvl 3 Refraction and Meld.........if you want, you can also have the 50% slow that the traps give you........and unless you are really dumb, you won't attack a full health hero. This hero gave me kills before lvl 4 becouse the advantage that not to much people know how to use it.........I guess it's different now, haven't played for weeks.

  Be careful, I'm not saying he is the greatest hero there is, just that I like this hero.