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Cuintus wrote:

Be careful, I'm not saying he is the greatest hero there is, just that I like this hero.

Far from the best. But she IS one of the most broken. Although I DID manage to pwn one while using Viper (one of her exclusive counters); however, she was just plain horrible, so it's not because Viper >>>>>>> Lanaya. Maybe Viper + Wards >> Lanaya, but I wouldn't say Viper all alone could take her. Maybe Veno, but a smart Lanaya can still survive a full on barrage from Veno, if she uses her gay ass refraction just right.

Puck, on the other hand, is balanced. He's spell-dependant, so any silencer will fuck him over. Dying to Silencer a couple times will REALLY mess a Puck up, since they need a large mana pool to keep up their spams. People say Illusory Orb is wicked overpowered, but that's just because they're making it seem like it does everything with great efficiency... 1) It's slow and easily avoided; 2) The damage is pathetic; 3) It's VERY slow for an escape mechanism, and wastes its damage if used like this. While it is very powerful, you need to stack it with other damage to really scare people, and you need to have killer aim to hit a team that knows what they're doing. Guinsoo owns Puck. The only thing that doesn't own Puck is straight up nukes/spamming, because he can just shift out of the damage before it lands. But then again, ANY wind walker can do the same thing if they time it right. The difference is Puck can spam it. But NO professional league game relies on pure damage to win it. It's almost 80% disables, which own Puck like a silly little bitch. He's fun, most assuredly, and killer farming, but not broken... not at all.

Cuintus, please don't double post; the Edit button is there for a reason.

It would be nice, I suppose... but since it wasn't a double post (accidental or intentional), I suppose it won't matter... unless an admin comes in and says otherwise.

I did not delete my post. I dunno what's wrong with these forums lately but sometimes I post and then when I look the other day my post has been duplicated or they have been deleted.

Anyway. I think Puck is overpowered, not as much as lanaya tho.

Last edited by GodUltimate (2007-09-11 03:16:03)

RedMafia wrote:

you make him look like a bad hero when he really is a good hero.
3. The ulti+silence rape really hard in team fights. If you bait a hero up a hill or around a ocrner and ulti right before they get vision it owns.

if they're not maphacking T_T.... oh wait, you play those IH games in that clan channel... so nvm

o yea that european team i forge from which country >_>
meh they fail at life

In one of my cal matches couple of the guys on the other team are maphacking so obviously
its funny to watch replay. Anyway they werent good  and i was 2 lazy to care enough to report.

Its not hard to see if someone is maphacking if you analyze the replay but you need cause to do so >_>
So if you were to use it when people try to gank you it would be obvious and you cna always check replay if they ahd wards. Same when you are running away if you try to juke multiple heroes wihtout vision of htem it becomes pretty obvious. Only good for ganking other and getting runes imo cuz that the only situation where you cna make it look natural without arising suspicion from players who know the game well.

GodUltimate wrote:

I did not delete my post. I dunno what's wrong with these forums lately but sometimes I post and then when I look the other day my post has been duplicated or they have been deleted.

I'm having this problem before. hmmm...
but never mind, I'd just finish playing with my friend. I'm using Lucifier and I got a triple kill.

Anyway, i'm not really understand about Puck's Ultimate. Can someone explain to me?

Last edited by Gloin Bullroarer (2007-09-13 01:44:33)

To be more exact, it's 100/150/200 damage per level, per nuke. It has a chance to nuke any hero within it's radius twice, no more. The first nuke ALWAYS stuns them for .5 seconds, the second nuke stuns them for 1.5/2/3 seconds each level. Essentially, the ult is like Rupture; harmless if you stand still (in this case, stay near it), painful if you try to run. However, BECAUSE it forces you to stay where you are, it sets up menacing ganks.

However, like Rupture, it suffers from an inherent lack of potency against blinking heroes. While they still get damaged and stunned if they blink away, they've still managed to cover some ground, and possible escaped into the safety of fog, no less. In general, getting a Blink Dagger seems to be a popular counter for Puck...

yeah but if you blink with rupture on, you take LOTS of damage T_T.  As AM with a hoodie i still lost about 1/2 my hp from one blink.

SoDa wrote:

yeah but if you blink with rupture on, you take LOTS of damage T_T.  As AM with a hoodie i still lost about 1/2 my hp from one blink.

Bullshit. Rupture does NO MORE than 200 damage a second, and blinking counts as "1 second". You'll take 200 Damage from blinking to escape BS. Last I checked, AM has more than 400 HP when he's level 1!!! 454 in fact...

Half your life bar, my ass...

Also, hood does nothing to rupture. It's not a spell, it's a trigger. Triggered damage is pure and unstoppable, like Dispersed nukes. To be precise, the damage type of Rupture is "aura", because the spell summons a dummy unit. Anywho, if there wasn't a cap to Rupture's DOD, then porting to your fountain to escape would result in INSTANT DEATH, which never happens. Play a game as BS, just stalk somebody until they push deep into your territory and use their BOTs, then Rupture them. All you'll receive is a "lol!" when they find out they've just taken 550 damage and are safely healing at their base for the next 10-12 seconds of the spell. (For those who don't understand where the 550 comes from, at lvl 3, the initial damage from rupture is 350, and then followed by the distance damage, which caps at 200 per second. Ergo, the most that can be dealt with Rupture is no more than 550 in any second!)

There is only ONE item in the game that counters rupture, and that's BKB. It makes you untargetable to the spell, and if you activate it after being hit with it, you'll take no DOD, even though the bleeding animation will still be visible.

I want to ask about, Azalor...
I really sucks in using this hero but still I can't counter him, even using Huskar...

But that makes me interested in him.

Ezalor? I think it is Azalor... If it's ezalor, how to counter him then?

Nope. I'm talking about Ezalor.
I'd just finished playing last night using Omniknight, and I got the highest kill, 13 times, only died once.
Anyone who want to share experience using this hero?